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posted 05-01-2002 16:25 GMT     Profile for avinash316  Reply to & quote message

The greatest drive?

In its latest issue, the UK's Motorsport magazine conducted an interesting survey with a renowned panel of approximately thirty judges that included ITV's Murray Walker, well-known journalist Nigel Roebuck, and motor sports writer Alan Henry, to determine what has been the greatest motorsports 'drive' in history.
The results, for the most part, were quite surprising.

While in several other surveys in recent years, Ayrton Senna's complete dominance of the 1993 European Grand Prix, which included that masterful display that took him from fifth to first before the end of the first lap, has been voted as the greatest formula1 driver ever, in Motorsport's results, that drive is only ranked in third place.

The winner's honours go to the only man to have won five formula1 world championships, Argentine, Juan Manuel Fangio, for his colossal drive in the 1957 German Grand Prix held at the Nürburgring that is considered by many as his greatest performance. In that race, he drove a Maserati 250 F and fought hard with the Ferrari's of Mike Hawthorn and Peter Collins while trading the lead of the race. It was only in the penultimate lap that the Argentine passed the Ferrari's to win the race and take his fifth world title.

Second place went to Briton Stirling Moss, but not, curiously, for one of his formula1 performances. Instead, he got the vote for his winning performance in the 1955 'Mille Miglia' race, a classic endurance race that begins in Brescia, northen Italy, then reaches Rome mainly via the western coast of the country, and then returns for the finish back at Brescia through the eastern side of Italy.

Rounding out the top five positions were Jackie Stewart's 1968 German Grand Prix win at the Nürburgring in his Matra Cosworth and Nigel Mansell's 1987 British Grand Prix win at Silverstone, a race that will probably be most remembered for the audacious passing manoeuvre that Mansell put on team-mate, Nelson Piquet, to take victory.

Interestingly, Michael Schumacher, a current four-time world champion manages only mention in the top twenty votes for his second place at the 1994 Spanish Grand Prix, something he achieved, pit stops and all, stuck in fifth gear from about mid-way through the race. Alain Prost, another four-time world champion, does not even make it into the top twenty.

Senna, by contrast, has four mentions in total: third for the 1993 European Grand Prix, thirteenth for his maiden win at the Portuguese Grand Prix of 1985, fourteenth for his second place at the rain-soaked 1984 Monaco race and twentieth for his win at the 1988 Japanese Grand Prix which gave him his first world title.

Another interesting result is Keke Rosberg's thirty-first place for his 1985 British Grand Prix qualifying lap: to this day, it stands as the fastest qualifying lap ever with an average speed of 160.925 mph (approximately 257.4 kmh).

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posted 06-01-2002 10:21 GMT     Profile for Morpheus  Reply to & quote message

let's not make this another topic about senna/ms/prost/hill ect. being the best driver...


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posted 06-01-2002 10:53 GMT     Profile for ChredeF1  Reply to & quote message

Yeah it will only be mayhem in here if this discussion begins

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posted 06-01-2002 14:36 GMT     Profile for Morpheus  Reply to & quote message

yip... and it's just impossible to decide which driver is better, ms/senna/prost/alonso/marques ect...


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posted 06-01-2002 15:01 GMT     Profile for ChredeF1  Reply to & quote message

Morpheus you forgot to mention Alex Yoong

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posted 10-01-2002 22:45 GMT     Profile for Insomnia  Reply to & quote message

hey chredef1 .. you forgot to mention marques .. the best ever ...
he's done EVERYTHING in f1 .. well, except driving the car properly
SENNA will always be the greatest, MY greatest at least ....
sorry , i just HAD to add that line
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posted 10-01-2002 22:48 GMT     Profile for Insomnia  Reply to & quote message

**** .. i didn't see that Morpheus already mentioned marques ...


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posted 15-01-2002 09:42 GMT     Profile for zjeeraar  Reply to & quote message

you guys forget burti...... he has experienced the worse crash a driver can get and survived it hurray to burti


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posted 20-01-2002 20:20 GMT     Profile for ml628  Reply to & quote message

Hi, I'm a newbie here! This is my first post, actually.

I'm just interested to know if Gilles Villeneuve was included in the survey.

Such talented driver is worth mentioning - In the top 20 at least?


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posted 21-01-2002 17:21 GMT     Profile for Morpheus  Reply to & quote message

Hi!

Welcome to this forum...

as for your question, sorry, i don't know if he was mentioned in the top 20...


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posted 23-01-2002 21:57 GMT     Profile for Kamikaze  Reply to & quote message

Verstappen has been in al the "zandbakken"

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posted 30-01-2002 19:33 GMT     Profile for FordFan  Reply to & quote message

My dog's name is Senna, and he is the best dog ever. OK, most of the time he is a pain in the *** hyperactive shepherd mix, but I still love him.

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posted 30-01-2002 20:03 GMT     Profile for avinash316  Reply to & quote message

quote:
Originally posted by FordFan
My dog's name is Senna, and he is the best dog ever. OK, most of the time he is a pain in the *** hyperactive shepherd mix, but I still love him.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BUDDY?

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posted 30-01-2002 20:16 GMT     Profile for FordFan  Reply to & quote message

My dog's name really is Senna! I can't believe you can't say as@ on this forum.

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